tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post3428077529729807197..comments2024-02-28T16:12:37.049-08:00Comments on Nick Redfern's World of Whatever...: Ufologists: Do NOT Do These Things!Nick Redfernhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-17010903815833696492019-09-06T09:14:34.424-07:002019-09-06T09:14:34.424-07:00Yes yes yes yes to everything!! Fab read. Absolute...Yes yes yes yes to everything!! Fab read. Absolutely agree. Sacha Christiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06740476172461093266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-32354173620514468782017-06-02T16:37:09.816-07:002017-06-02T16:37:09.816-07:00godofthunder85 is correct: "...the evidence d...godofthunder85 is correct: "...the evidence does not in any way suggest that the UFO phenomenon is, by and large, the product of visitation by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations originating elsewhere in the physical universe." Yet, as Autumn Forest suggested, there's still weirdness going on. Things flying in the sky, or landing of roof-tops. But do we all need a degree in aerospace engineering to fully understand it? Yet non-scientists are the biggest problem for UFOlogy, but are the biggest contributor of eyewitness accounts and odd experiences. As a 'scientist', I commiserate with Nick.The Disillusionedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14954011298102616998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-76272748776860128642017-06-02T16:23:45.482-07:002017-06-02T16:23:45.482-07:00"...very few nuts-and-bolts UFO believers are..."...very few nuts-and-bolts UFO believers are experts in subjects like aerodynamics and rocket science, which arguably they ought to be in order to have any credibility." Not true. But it is an aspect of the field. But if we stood by what you say, then every single person allegedly studying alleged UFOs must be an expert in aerodynamics and rocket science, and that is stupid. There's more to 'UFOs' than these two things. They're not simply an engineering problem; though, if you wanted to make one or understand how they work, then, yes, engineers become important. And you hint at this when you imply UFOlogists need to know the difference between the neo-Assyrian and neo-Babylonian empires. But there again, you said 'believers', and that's a bigger problem because believers don't want evidence - they just want to believe. So, despite the engineering issues associated with 'UFOs', there are many others.The Disillusionedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14954011298102616998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-64036740155650758992017-06-01T14:41:57.183-07:002017-06-01T14:41:57.183-07:00The name change thing reminds me of the phenomenon...The name change thing reminds me of the phenomenon where every serial killer (or assassin) has to have a middle name. I think "Ted Bundy" is the only one that's escaped that fate. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06528468061069047418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-37902093250905022172016-11-04T19:50:29.025-07:002016-11-04T19:50:29.025-07:00Half of what you say is interesting, the rest, not...Half of what you say is interesting, the rest, not so much. Take point seven (I think), about being open to changing ideas about UFO-related things. The basis of any field of study is its theoretical basis. However, this means theory that has stood the test of time; has been experimentally demonstrated to be true or, at least, logically sound. There are no such things in UFOlogy. UFOlogy does not have a theoretical basis of experimentally proven theories or even logical theories. And if you encourage people to 'change' only because a new and exciting if not fashionable theory comes along, which 'sounds' better than some older theories about UFO-related things, then that is useless because it does not provide UFOlogy with a solid theoretical foundation, merely more useless silly theories. So what if a lady in grey came to your door in the evening? Prove that she had anything to do with anything other insurance. If you cannot, you are wasting everyone's time sprouting a pet theory about what her 'true' motives were for coming to your door. In my humble opinion, there is no UFOlogy worth talking about because it does not have a theoretical basis for studying anything UFO-related because not a single theory has been experimentally proven 'true' or possess the requisite logicality required to support a true field of study.The Disillusionedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14954011298102616998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-90225845987052309822016-08-24T14:38:15.561-07:002016-08-24T14:38:15.561-07:00Hi!vRegarding Women in Black book.My experince was...Hi!vRegarding Women in Black book.My experince was as follows, A lady came to my door(no not dressed in black! A dark gray skirt blouse claining tio be a Insurence adjuster(this was in the evenin) Told here I knew nothing about an insurnce claim she did get my name however She was carrying a Cream colored purse I swear Glowed a sickly green when I answered her questions! I do some UFO resarch and perhaps I gpt too close to something! Am freinds 40 years with great UFOLOGIST Dr. R .Leo Sprinkle PhD Maybe a connection there? Dr.Sprinkle will be 86 yo Aug 31st by the way Hopeig to start a "GLOBAL FULL UFO DAY" AUG 31ST To once and for all encouage the FuLL DISCLSURE OF UFO BY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SOURCES! HAPPY BIRTHDAY DR. SPRINKLE! Thanks,Dr.Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC>The Tesla Fan Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02722618102051920318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-82309589318777504032015-12-17T06:49:00.134-08:002015-12-17T06:49:00.134-08:00Nick. Awesome article. I was nice enough to share ...Nick. Awesome article. I was nice enough to share my story with a ufologist, who claimed he was writing "another" book to give "experiencers" a platform where they could be believed by a trusting person and tell their stories. After he insulted me in the initial draft of my story,and was called on it and corrected, he stated that he was merely considering what readers would question about my take on things. He never apologized. Now that the book is published, incorrectly of course, he has been on three radio talk shows. He has been implying that I'm some crazy, yet at the same time, using mainly the chapter on me to promote the book that will or will not make "him" more money. I emailed the host of one radio show already and gave him spelling and pronunciation corrections etc. I went from trusting this guy with my info, to being insulted on live broadcasts. My goal now, is to write my own book with my own correct info and leave him in the dust. I got a copyright on my own property and artwork before his book was published. He is playing with a movie producer who contributed an apparently "acceptable" abduction story and also with a couple of the "big boys" who are hard set to never accept any alternative point of view, which I have offered wholeheartedly, only to be labelled by this "ufologist" as a potential wingnut, so he can save face with the Jones's while still exploiting my chapter for his own gain. It's all about his success.<br /><br />Cinta ej Narat Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07243819940244715715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-64112960761126020362014-12-13T18:21:02.210-08:002014-12-13T18:21:02.210-08:00Part 2: Now, on the other hand, I think it's s...Part 2: Now, on the other hand, I think it's silly for certain researchers on the topic - I am pointing out Keel and Vallee here in particular, despite being a big fan of their writings and proponent of their basic theories - to try and validate the IH (interdimensional hypothesis) by claiming it's highly unlikely that extraterrestrial life exists anywhere, or that if it is, then it's all but impossible that a truly advanced civilization could circumvent the distance and time dilation difficulties in traveling through deep space. Mainstream scientific studies in no way suggest that life is unlikely to exist anywhere else in the universe. Acknowledging this in no way suggests that I'm suddenly supporting the ETH as the source for most of the UFO phenomenon. The available evidence simply does not point in that direction, and there are many good, logical reasons to believe that any advanced extraterrestrial race that could locate and travel to this planet could easily survey our world without flashing lights all over the place, landing and making repairs of their highly advanced craft directly in view of witnesses, or abducting humans and making crude medical examinations that are clearly more designed to elicit emotional reactions than uncover any actual biological data.<br /><br /> Further, arguing that no intelligent E.T. species could possibly have a humanoid form because they could only look like "nothing we can possibly imagine" simply because, well, they're not from Earth, is also rather silly and betrays a lack of biological and evolutionary knowledge: The form they took would depend on the conditions of their planet. Human beings developed the basic humanoid phenotype and bipedal stance because it specifically worked under our planetary conditions to enable us to use and create tools properly. Throughout the many climate environments on Earth, all higher organisms (above insects and arachnids, etc.) have developed four limbs (never more than that), two eyes (never more than that), a mouth located under the nose and eyes (never above either), etc. Why? It's because this basic phenotypical structure *works*, and nature tends to go with what works over any type of biological flight of fancy simply because it can. Any other planet in our universe with even roughly Earth-like conditions would follow the same physical laws that govern our planet, and would not be akin to other dimensions of reality (when we're talking about that, then it's possibly a whole different story).<br /><br />So, in summation, almost all the available evidence of the UFO phenomenon does not support the ETH; rather, it seems to suggest that the phenomenon of mysterious aerial craft and their bizarre occupants are somehow intertwined with the full array of paranormal activity that researchers of all aspects of Fortean phenomena routinely study, even if cryptozoologists and ufologists who adhere to certain beliefs prefer to downplay or ignore this. <br /><br />But on the other hand, much of what some of the groundbreaking researchers on the UFO puzzle say about the "impossibility" of extraterrestrial life, or the "impossibility" of any of it having the basic humanoid phenotype, or on the "impossibility" of any sufficiently advanced civilization developing the technological means of interstellar travel, are unnecessarily making unscientific statements to bolster the IH, when the available evidence alone is more than sufficient to do this. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-28712656458639875512014-12-13T18:19:33.550-08:002014-12-13T18:19:33.550-08:00Part 1: I have this much to say on the ETH theory,...Part 1: I have this much to say on the ETH theory, based on the argument between Nick and Hermit. <br /><br />On the one hand, I fully agree with Nick and other researchers on the topic through the years, e.g., Keel, Vallee, etc, that the evidence does not in any way suggest that the UFO phenomenon is, by and large, the product of visitation by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations originating elsewhere in the physical universe. The phenomenon goes back too far in human history, and draws too many notable parallels with the fairy-faith in its numerous cultural variations, and overlap with too many other aspects of the paranormal (e.g., weird creature sightings, poltergeist activity, magical summonings, psychic abilities). I used to be a firm adherent of the ETH hypothesis, and tried my hardest to dismiss the books written by Vallee which I read back in the day, but eventually I had to face where the evidence led. The popularity of E.T.'s in science fiction and the resulting cultural expectation towards the First Contact event have made the ETH theory to explain the UFO phenomenon all too attractive from an emotional standpoint, and within an easily comprehensible framework for someone living between the mid-20th century to the present. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-69593725921144230692013-11-09T16:55:53.867-08:002013-11-09T16:55:53.867-08:00Timothy D Brigham, PHD found this the most enterta...Timothy D Brigham, PHD found this the most entertaining article containing the term ufology in a while, Perhaps saying something of the sad state of ufo research. <br />Hilarity. Thanks nickAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857160009237776690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-38868069162192872782012-09-25T22:28:02.853-07:002012-09-25T22:28:02.853-07:00Brillant and very amusing, well done Nick.Brillant and very amusing, well done Nick.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13315763777281082782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-45792399235254898162012-08-31T23:20:29.469-07:002012-08-31T23:20:29.469-07:00Hey Nick, this is a good overview of things that c...Hey Nick, this is a good overview of things that could definitely go away. If you manage to get ufologists to realize changing views isn't necessarily bad, can you move onto politicians next? Haha.<br /><br />As to #6, I think it's way older than Mr Arnold's infant-era breakfast. Didn't similar ideas come from the 1897 Airship chaos? Not to mention centuries of religious stuff, which may or may not be connected (any thoughts on possible connections with #7?)Bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06611874930385849948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-8170004103102602962012-08-30T23:17:26.025-07:002012-08-30T23:17:26.025-07:00Your position deserves respect! "Scientific u...Your position deserves respect! "Scientific ufologists" are a sect, which considers only the extraterrestrial hypothesis. The UFO phenomenon is very multifacetedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-76785108071775584162012-08-29T12:03:07.606-07:002012-08-29T12:03:07.606-07:00Wow that would be awesome! Yeah I look forward to...Wow that would be awesome! Yeah I look forward to seeing the docs. I thought your take on the whole "stargate conspiracy" was very well written -- concise yet fascinating. Still I think Prince and Picknett's book is at least a good hyperbolic antidote to the over-the-head "ancient aliens" meme going on. I mean specially with Greg's recent naming of the probable Aviary's Falcon as the CIA disinfo-agent Harry Rositzke. Oh I tweeted you about a MKultra victim of Ewen Cameron in Canada -- the victim said he had spoken to aliens from Sirius and Mars!! So another clue of possible stargate disinfo CIA mind control.<br /><br />Yeah that was part of my pondering as I thought the CIA was using pscilocybin more -- I mean as you noted Amanita Muscaria was apparently discarded. Amanita Muscaria does have an MAOI which would increase a person's activation of the serotonin receptors for hallucinations or visions -- but its main effect is increasing acetylcholine and GABA. I forget the details but I researched it after I did it. haha. I mean it does induce a DMT-type dream experience that is called the "eternal loop" similar to the "rainbow vortex" of DMT. So it would appear to have a "gateway" or wormhole visionary effect. The best part though is the "beserker" surge of euphoric energy -- and there is a time delay in perception so there are actions before the prefrontal cortex consciously acknowledges what happened. So I did a 9 hour full lotus session on amanita muscaria and so I confirmed it activated the kundalini energy. My brain felt very lucid also and the amgydala is deactivated so there is no fear. This is why the Beserkers used it.<br /><br />Oh I recommend Jan Irvin's documentary on amanita muscaria -- fascinating stuff with it's use in the medieval churches -- possible as the origin of Jesus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApTAW19RUDU Well it's kind of pedantic so maybe only if you've done amanita muscaria will you appreciate the stretching of logic in the doc. haha.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-56420886078105587142012-08-29T10:51:58.293-07:002012-08-29T10:51:58.293-07:00Hey Spiral:
Yeah, posting the documents is no prob...Hey Spiral:<br />Yeah, posting the documents is no problem. I can just scan and upload them. It's worth noting, however, that as you may recall from Pyramids/Pentagon, even the CIA found the whole Muscaria/levitating stones thing as fanciful, and they viewed it very skeptically. Others, however, didn't. Which suggests - probably correctly - that there has been a lot of debate and divergence of opinion in Govt on such controversies. There definitely does not seem to have been a fully-unified concensus on the value of psychedelics in Intel Ops.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-28528940140993566402012-08-29T08:39:46.706-07:002012-08-29T08:39:46.706-07:00Yeah Nick on the "letters after the name"...Yeah Nick on the "letters after the name" bit -- here's my take on that. I have used "M.A." after my name as a joke to piss people off. Now I know it's wrong but consider this -- I did a "self-designed" masters degree at the U of MN and the whole time I was doing activism exposing the corrupt corporate control of the University. So first I protested that the University had $1.5 million stocks in Total Oil using slave labor in Burma. Well they invested in other corporations in Burma but they divested the Total stock. Then I protested the University having their athletic clothing made in sweatshops where the young females are forced to get abortions if they want to keep their jobs, etc. Yes they finally joined the Workers Rights Consortium. Then I protested the University administration telling Monsanto: "For enough money well give you tomatoes as big a basketballs!" Then I exposed how a University program director Ph.D. instructor was promoting Werner von Braun as his star example of humanity and his personal mentor in the graduate school newsletter. I got an email from the President of the University with the patronizing comment that I had "done enough" already and please "don't go on unlimited hunger strike." The instructor who didn't like me pointing out Werner von Braun had supervised slave labor when he was a Nazi SS -- he emailed me with only the simple comment: "I will personally make sure you are never published in the MN Daily again." Anyway so that was my "masters degree" and they were glad to see me go. haha. So if someone is personally offended if I use M.A. after my name as if I'm trying to boast my credentials and so they think I'm brown-nosing or something -- I say the jokes on them for judging people based on superficial labels!! haha. In fact the pseudonym of my online free download book is Moose Dung, an Ojibwe name. haha.<br /><br />It's like the joke I make about those new punk rockers that have to have that "perfect purple mowhawk" with those "perfect shiny black boots" and then they hang out in the malls. haha. Being punk is an attitude and hopefully it doesn't involve what the term means in jail cells. Nope I prefer Punk meaning rotten like detritus and humus and humanure making a beautiful nutritious vegetable garden.<br /><br />Anyway Nick I'm wondering about your reference in Pyramids and the Pentagon citing the 1956 and 1959 CIA amanita muscaria experiments. See I've done amanita muscaria and it was awesome - once the nausea passes and also drinking the urine is a bit tough -- but the visions of Egyptian levitating stones and spacecraft? -- it's pretty wild. <br /><br />So you said that was a FOIA request you did to the CIA? I tried finding stuff online -- I found the CIA MKultra mentions amanita muscaria in subproject 22 but I couldn't find any details online. I would think that if you have any FOIA records people would really want to see the documents online.<br /><br />Have you ever thought of uploading your FOIA'd documents? I mean I don't know the easiest way -- I'm a luddite -- but even an image upload from a digital camera would be super easy. Or could you maybe give more details on the FOIA document or maybe you got it from some CIA public records that are online?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-41080981320255317202012-08-29T07:21:58.422-07:002012-08-29T07:21:58.422-07:00My friend Mike Clelland tells how he once during a...My friend Mike Clelland tells how he once during a conference he found Brad Steiger sitting all alone at the hotel bar. With a bit of timidity, Mike approached the table and said to Brad how much he admired him and his work, and asked him if he could talk with him for a little while; to which Brad replied with a smile and his Texan accent: "If you buy me a beer you can sit right here"<br /><br />So yeah, this is a public kudos to Mr. Steiger, arguably the most prolific Fortean author around*, yet he can still find the time to converse with his fans --what's YOUR excuse, UFOlogists? ;)<br /><br />(*) Though I do believe Nick is giving him a good run for the title :PRed Pill Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14738203580562140501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-32998810228780788182012-08-29T06:56:37.107-07:002012-08-29T06:56:37.107-07:00Hermit:
You criticize my views in this post. But,...Hermit:<br /><br />You criticize my views in this post. But, look what I actually have scorn for (things that in my view are entirely valid for scorn): those ufologists who wont give the time of day to hanging out with conference attendees, because they want to be with their elite little groups. That's pathetic, ego-driven and deserves to be criticized.<br /><br />Anyone who kisses ass to get ahead and is not true to the themselves - in any field - deserves criticism and scorn.<br /><br />Being embarrassed about admitting to strangers you are into UFOs is pathetic. People should be proud of it!<br /><br />Yes, I DO find the middle initial thing on book-covers to be amusing. Thankfully, Micah has seen the light and removed the "A" from all future covers.<br /><br />My post is NOT a dig at Ufology in general, the people in it, the subject or anything like that. It's simply a focus on 10 issues that I think are entirely valid ones for discussion and attack.<br /><br />Without doubt, number 5 is the worst (in my view). I cannot tell you how many times I have seen this at UFO conferences, and it disgusts me. <br /><br />If people have paid good money to see someone lecture on their book, then that author should spend time with his or her audience - and not just hastily scribble their signature in a book and say "I've got to go because us elites are having a super-secret meeting that you can't come to." Or, that's basically what they mean. <br /><br />I could tell you some real horror stories of very famous people in Ufology who just cannot stand having to spend time with the audience. And yet, the people they look down on are the very ones buying their books and coming to see them speak! And Ive seen conference attendees upset and disillusioned by that arrogant ego angle of "Don't talk to me." That, for me, is the real scum angle of Ufology. And I make no apologies for showing bitterness towards the angle and those researchers who think they are above their audience. <br /><br />We're all in this together, all looking for answers, and anyone who thinks they are some sort of elite IS a dickhead!Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-32459311715360280842012-08-29T05:54:44.532-07:002012-08-29T05:54:44.532-07:00Hermit:
Out-dated? Yes. It's had its day? In m...Hermit:<br />Out-dated? Yes. It's had its day? In my view, definitely yes. But, NO, that's no outright dismissal. We can only dismiss something if we have proof it isn't valid/real. I can't do that. But I DO think that the ETH is far less likely than other theories. So, I prefer to focus on other theories, rather than the one that has focused the attention of so many since 1947 - but without confirmation/validation of that theory. Will we ever be able to resolve which theory is correct? Maybe not. But that doesn't stop me searching, and I think that if the search does find the answer, it wont be ET. Kettles and pots arent even relevant. I think the ET is way outdated. But I admittedly cannot 100 percent deny it. Anymore than an ETHer can honestly deny the interdeminsional theory etc etc.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-27346489187424482542012-08-29T05:48:15.378-07:002012-08-29T05:48:15.378-07:00Neil: Yeah, the 50s covers were FAR superior!Neil: Yeah, the 50s covers were FAR superior!Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-58241671422948019792012-08-29T05:47:15.967-07:002012-08-29T05:47:15.967-07:00Hermit:
The cover of Micah's forthcoming book...Hermit:<br /><br />The cover of Micah's forthcoming book has been changed. The "A" is now gone for good.<br /><br />I assure you I will NOT argue that I'm "poking fun." I meant every word of it. <br /><br />What's wrong with being bitter and cynical about 10 things in Ufology? I can think of many other aspects of Ufology I'm NOT bitter and cynical about, so 10 that I AM is hardly a big deal to me. <br /><br />Why would I even want to be a "poster boy" for Ufology? They are just my views. If people agree, fine. If not, it's hardly something I'll lose sleep over.Nick Redfernhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02198543983413599418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-75926158220924077042012-08-28T17:34:59.004-07:002012-08-28T17:34:59.004-07:00In most cases the covers are chosen by the publish...In most cases the covers are chosen by the publisher, nothing to do with the authors at all. Ditto for interior photos and illustrations. Same for names and middle initials, that is most often the publisher's decision -- except for Micah A. Hanks, but I'm sure Nick won't be calling him a dickhead anytime soon.<br /><br />Wow, the scorn and ridicule in this blog is so disappointing. No, don't argue you're just "poking fun" -- the bitterness and cynicism is plain to see, something we get enough of from skeptics. Take a long hard long at yourselves, folks, you're not the poster children of ufology either. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-59742495100589481242012-08-28T17:29:05.136-07:002012-08-28T17:29:05.136-07:00"Out-dated" is the same thing, Nick -- i..."Out-dated" is the same thing, Nick -- it's had it's day, throw it out, move on. That's dismissal. And as you admit, you're biased against the ETH from the get-go, which doesn't make you a partial judge at all. Kettle calling the pot, if you ask me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-4194785179469408802012-08-28T15:28:31.001-07:002012-08-28T15:28:31.001-07:00Good point RPJ. Although author's don't of...Good point RPJ. Although author's don't often get to design their covers it's important for a book to have decent artwork. Hell, that's the reason I bought so many heavy metal albums in the '80s! I enjoyed the covers of some of the 1950s UFO books but over time the covers have left me cold. Neil Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18241593955210773189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3011648106646252813.post-47989741895098460542012-08-28T10:52:55.437-07:002012-08-28T10:52:55.437-07:00It occurs to me you left out one major caveat I th...It occurs to me you left out one major caveat I think you & I share when it comes to this field:<br /><br />The childish compulsion UFOlogists have of filling the covers of their books with cheesy illustrations of aliens & flying saucers.<br /><br />Yes, I know authors don't really have much opinion when it comes to the decisions their editors take when handling the layout and appearance of their books. But since this field is filled with self-publishing authors, I feel this is no longer a valid excuse.<br /><br />I feel Richard Dolan's books are a good example of how a proper UFO book's art cover should be handled. I mean COME ON! Just because the book deals with UFOs doesn't necessarily mean you're obliged to paste a fugly saucer as the focal point of your cover.Red Pill Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14738203580562140501noreply@blogger.com