There's always someone who thinks he knows more than the person who's done all the hard research and asked the right questions to get to the truth. This kind of person belongs in a ufo "fandom," not to be taken seriously. Thank you for getting down and dirty with the research and putting it out there for all to think intelligently about this subject. Everyone has opinions. Lots of people have "informed" opinions. Thank you for allowing us a chance to respect the truth, wherever it may lead us.
b"h Hello Nick, On what may be a related note, I wondered if you have ever heard of, or attempted to contact, Jonathan Van Weygandt, who evidently lives in North Carolina, or that vicinity. Weygandt was in the USMC and was one of the servicemen who reported in Steven Greer's disclosure project. Weygandt says that he and fellow Marines came upon a crashed craft and beings. Here is the link to his video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOwhJ4fJoWk
That video is found at Dr. Greer's youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/DrStevenGreer55/videos
Weygandt seems quite convinced of his story, as extreme as it is. In addition, his DD214 is shown onscreen and it gives his name and other info. I was in the USMC from '75 to '81 (stationed at NAS Dallas, actually, when it was in Grand Prairie), so this fellow comes across as an actual jarhead. He does say that he suffered some serious worldview conflict after the encounter, and evidently he received an early medical discharge. Did he actually encounter some kind of object and beings? Was he inflicted with some kind of psyop? I have a difficult time believing all the details of his story, but from experience I can leave enough space to weigh the possibility that some kernal of his story did indeed happen.
I don't live in the US anymore, or I might try to contact him. His name does show up in in google - jonathan van weygandt.
I thought you might be interested in giving it a go.
Hello Nick (mailing from the UK - we met once at a UFO meeting in Stourbridge.) On page 70 you refer to the 'final days of 1964' when, at Porton Down, experiments were taking place on military personnel. I hadn't seen any dates about Porton Down previously so I was amazed to notice that it was at precicely the same time when the first - aural - happenings started at Warminster, starting off the extended phenomenon there. On Christmas morning a number of residents were alarmed by strange aerial noises. Interesting is the fact that some 30 soldiers at Knook Camp, about 4 miles to the east of the town were awoken by a noise which was 'similar to that of a huge chimney stack being ripped from a roof and scattered over the camp'. (Description by a segeant.) An extraordinary coincidence if it was one!
Hello Nick, mailing from the UK. (We met some time back at a UFO meeting in Stourbridge.) On page 70 you mention that military personnel were experimented upon at Porton Down at the end of 1964. What I hadn't known previously was any dates relating to Porton Down, so I was amazed when I realised that this was precisely the time when strange things were beginning to happen not very far away in Warminster, where there is another military base. It was the start of the extended Warminster UFO scene. The happenings were, at first, aural, when a number of residents were alarmed by strange noises on Christmas morning. However, my interest here lies in the fact that some 30 soldiers were woken on the same morning at the Knook Camp base, about four miles east of the town. The loud noise was 'similar to that of a huge chimney stack being ripped from a roof and scattered in pieces over the base'. (Description from a sergeant at the base.) If a coincidence it's very remarkable! Also the fact that it was Christmas. Regards, Ray Cox
Nick, your research is first class! You’ve done a Sterling job on debunking Roswell and now Rendlesham. Could you please now write a book on the Barney and Betty Hill case, explaining how this was also an MKULTRA Project.
Hi Nick, we have only spoken over the phone and that was way back in the 90's. I saw the ad for this book on Amazon a few months ago and yes had to purchase it. You probably do not recall, not many do it seems, the disclosure documents I penned from 1994 to 2000, The Voice Files. I have kept myself distanced from the so called ufo community for a number of years, its a 3 ring circus out there and I have kept away from the madness that pervades the subject now. The ideas you presented in this book are refreshing but not totally new. You may or may not know that in my files I stated that the 1980 Rendlesham case was not a drill, exercise but more of a full blown psyop perpetrated by the military and intel. I stated this in print during the 90's and detailed what was done to Larry Warren. Detailing how software and hardware was shipped by road from the West Country to Suffolk, gave dates and times too. You will note I have given insights as to the close role Porton Down has played within ufology also during those disclosure years. Miles Johnston also filmed whilst we were at Rendlesham in 1996 and 1997 and I stated on camera the psychotronics used at Rendlesham on those fateful nights in 1980. Its all there, in black and white and on film....................the case was a full blown war conducted by the UK/US military and Intelligence, perhaps with a little 'outside' assistance. I'm stating all this here as it needs to be stated, I hope maybe you will read this and get in touch, there is more to say on this matter. Hope you are keeping well and safe during these dangerous pandemic times. All the best Nick, Barry M King (The Voice)
Hi Nick, further to my previous comment (yet to be published it seems) I detailed how the Warminster business of the mid 60's was down to UK military and psychotronic weaponry testing, the "thing" and all recorded accounts of audio anomalies as well as visual, all cleverly done with psychotronics way into the 1970's. I note on page 139 of this book you detailed a case investigation of mine, published in FSR mag in the 1970's, the soldiers on the Yorkshire moors. Well many in the so called ufo fraternity ignored or worse blasted me for my disclosures but strange how many years later others are coming out with exactly the same data and its well received this time round. Even Dr Steven Greer whom disallowed my CSETI contribution, like or loathe him but he remains a big name in the disclosure field. My data released globally for the very first time concerning PGLF's, well 10 years or so later Greer speaks in detail of these (he calls them PLF's so as to make it look like HIS data) at conferences etc. I should have put a copyright on them and the terminology LOL LOL Anyways Nick, I hope this and my previous comment get to see the light of day here. All the best, Barry M King
Hi Nick, further to my previous comment (yet to be published it seems) I detailed how the Warminster business of the mid 60's was down to UK military and psychotronic weaponry testing, the "thing" and all recorded accounts of audio anomalies as well as visual, all cleverly done with psychotronics way into the 1970's. I note on page 139 of this book you detailed a case investigation of mine, published in FSR mag in the 1970's, the soldiers on the Yorkshire moors. Well many in the so called ufo fraternity ignored or worse blasted me for my disclosures but strange how many years later others are coming out with exactly the same data and its well received this time round. Even Dr Steven Greer whom disallowed my CSETI contribution, like or loathe him but he remains a big name in the disclosure field. My data released globally for the very first time concerning PGLF's, well 10 years or so later Greer speaks in detail of these (he calls them PLF's so as to make it look like HIS data) at conferences etc. I should have put a copyright on them and the terminology LOL LOL Anyways Nick, I hope this and my previous comment get to see the light of day here. All the best, Barry M King
Hey Barry, Great to hear from you! Yeah, I definitely remember the Voice Files! You should get back into all this, as there's a lot of significant info coming thru towards Christmas, to coincide with the 40th anniversary of Rendlesham. I should stress this has nothing to do with me, but you'll find it very intriguing. Stay in touch, mate! Cheers, Nick
There's always someone who thinks he knows more than the person who's done all the hard research and asked the right questions to get to the truth. This kind of person belongs in a ufo "fandom," not to be taken seriously. Thank you for getting down and dirty with the research and putting it out there for all to think intelligently about this subject. Everyone has opinions. Lots of people have "informed" opinions. Thank you for allowing us a chance to respect the truth, wherever it may lead us.
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ReplyDeleteHello Nick,
On what may be a related note, I wondered if you have ever heard of, or attempted to contact, Jonathan Van Weygandt, who evidently lives in North Carolina, or that vicinity. Weygandt was in the USMC and was one of the servicemen who reported in Steven Greer's disclosure project. Weygandt says that he and fellow Marines came upon a crashed craft and beings. Here is the link to his video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOwhJ4fJoWk
That video is found at Dr. Greer's youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/DrStevenGreer55/videos
Weygandt seems quite convinced of his story, as extreme as it is. In addition, his DD214 is shown onscreen and it gives his name and other info. I was in the USMC from '75 to '81 (stationed at NAS Dallas, actually, when it was in Grand Prairie), so this fellow comes across as an actual jarhead. He does say that he suffered some serious worldview conflict after the encounter, and evidently he received an early medical discharge. Did he actually encounter some kind of object and beings? Was he inflicted with some kind of psyop? I have a difficult time believing all the details of his story, but from experience I can leave enough space to weigh the possibility that some kernal of his story did indeed happen.
I don't live in the US anymore, or I might try to contact him. His name does show up in in google - jonathan van weygandt.
I thought you might be interested in giving it a go.
Best wishes
William Strathmann
Thanks, William, I'll have a good look at all this. Best, Nick
ReplyDeleteHello Nick (mailing from the UK - we met once at a UFO meeting in Stourbridge.) On page 70 you refer to the 'final days of 1964' when, at Porton Down, experiments were taking place on military personnel. I hadn't seen any dates about Porton Down previously so I was amazed to notice that it was at precicely the same time when the first - aural - happenings started at Warminster, starting off the extended phenomenon there. On Christmas morning a number of residents were alarmed by strange aerial noises. Interesting is the fact that some 30 soldiers at Knook Camp, about 4 miles to the east of the town were awoken by a noise which was 'similar to that of a huge chimney stack being ripped from a roof and scattered over the camp'. (Description by a segeant.) An extraordinary coincidence if it was one!
ReplyDeleteHello Nick, mailing from the UK. (We met some time back at a UFO meeting in Stourbridge.) On page 70 you mention that military personnel were experimented upon at Porton Down at the end of 1964. What I hadn't known previously was any dates relating to Porton Down, so I was amazed when I realised that this was precisely the time when strange things were beginning to happen not very far away in Warminster, where there is another military base. It was the start of the extended Warminster UFO scene. The happenings were, at first, aural, when a number of residents were alarmed by strange noises on Christmas morning. However, my interest here lies in the fact that some 30 soldiers were woken on the same morning at the Knook Camp base, about four miles east of the town. The loud noise was 'similar to that of a huge chimney stack being ripped from a roof and scattered in pieces over the base'. (Description from a sergeant at the base.) If a coincidence it's very remarkable! Also the fact that it was Christmas. Regards, Ray Cox
ReplyDeleteThanks Ray, that's very interesting! I'll look into this further! Cheers, Nick
DeleteNick, your research is first class! You’ve done a Sterling job on debunking Roswell and now Rendlesham. Could you please now write a book on the Barney and Betty Hill case, explaining how this was also an MKULTRA Project.
ReplyDeleteI've definitely thought about it!
DeletePlease complete the trilogy by writing a book about Barney and Betty Hill
ReplyDeleteThere's certainly enough info to do a book, so maybe one day!
DeleteHi Nick, we have only spoken over the phone and that was way back in the 90's. I saw the ad for this book on Amazon a few months ago and yes had to purchase it. You probably do not recall, not many do it seems, the disclosure documents I penned from 1994 to 2000, The Voice Files. I have kept myself distanced from the so called ufo community for a number of years, its a 3 ring circus out there and I have kept away from the madness that pervades the subject now. The ideas you presented in this book are refreshing but not totally new. You may or may not know that in my files I stated that the 1980 Rendlesham case was not a drill, exercise but more of a full blown psyop perpetrated by the military and intel. I stated this in print during the 90's and detailed what was done to Larry Warren. Detailing how software and hardware was shipped by road from the West Country to Suffolk, gave dates and times too. You will note I have given insights as to the close role Porton Down has played within ufology also during those disclosure years. Miles Johnston also filmed whilst we were at Rendlesham in 1996 and 1997 and I stated on camera the psychotronics used at Rendlesham on those fateful nights in 1980. Its all there, in black and white and on film....................the case was a full blown war conducted by the UK/US military and Intelligence, perhaps with a little 'outside' assistance. I'm stating all this here as it needs to be stated, I hope maybe you will read this and get in touch, there is more to say on this matter. Hope you are keeping well and safe during these dangerous pandemic times. All the best Nick, Barry M King (The Voice)
ReplyDeleteHi Nick, further to my previous comment (yet to be published it seems) I detailed how the Warminster business of the mid 60's was down to UK military and psychotronic weaponry testing, the "thing" and all recorded accounts of audio anomalies as well as visual, all cleverly done with psychotronics way into the 1970's.
ReplyDeleteI note on page 139 of this book you detailed a case investigation of mine, published in FSR mag in the 1970's, the soldiers on the Yorkshire moors. Well many in the so called ufo fraternity ignored or worse blasted me for my disclosures but strange how many years later others are coming out with exactly the same data and its well received this time round.
Even Dr Steven Greer whom disallowed my CSETI contribution, like or loathe him but he remains a big name in the disclosure field. My data released globally for the very first time concerning PGLF's, well 10 years or so later Greer speaks in detail of these (he calls them PLF's so as to make it look like HIS data) at conferences etc. I should have put a copyright on them and the terminology LOL LOL
Anyways Nick, I hope this and my previous comment get to see the light of day here. All the best, Barry M King
Hi Nick, further to my previous comment (yet to be published it seems) I detailed how the Warminster business of the mid 60's was down to UK military and psychotronic weaponry testing, the "thing" and all recorded accounts of audio anomalies as well as visual, all cleverly done with psychotronics way into the 1970's.
ReplyDeleteI note on page 139 of this book you detailed a case investigation of mine, published in FSR mag in the 1970's, the soldiers on the Yorkshire moors. Well many in the so called ufo fraternity ignored or worse blasted me for my disclosures but strange how many years later others are coming out with exactly the same data and its well received this time round.
Even Dr Steven Greer whom disallowed my CSETI contribution, like or loathe him but he remains a big name in the disclosure field. My data released globally for the very first time concerning PGLF's, well 10 years or so later Greer speaks in detail of these (he calls them PLF's so as to make it look like HIS data) at conferences etc. I should have put a copyright on them and the terminology LOL LOL
Anyways Nick, I hope this and my previous comment get to see the light of day here. All the best, Barry M King
Hey Barry, Great to hear from you! Yeah, I definitely remember the Voice Files! You should get back into all this, as there's a lot of significant info coming thru towards Christmas, to coincide with the 40th anniversary of Rendlesham. I should stress this has nothing to do with me, but you'll find it very intriguing. Stay in touch, mate! Cheers, Nick
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